SmartTranscript of House Energy and Digital Infrastructure 2025-04-25 11:20am

[Vice Chair Scott Campbell]: Too. Pretty interesting today. [Member Richard Bailey]: We're, live on YouTube. [Chair Kathleen James]: Alright. Welcome, everybody. House Energy and Digital Infrastructure Committee on, Friday, April twenty fifth, and we are going to quickly, discuss and then vote on s fifty and act relating to increasing the size of solar net metering projects that qualify for expedited registration. I'm representative Kathleen James from Manchester. [Member Richard Bailey]: Richard Bailey from Memorial too. [Member Christopher Morrow]: Chris Morrow, Linda, Windsor Bennington. Michael Southworth, Caledonia too. Christopher Allen, Rutland Ford. [Member Dara Torre]: Garrett Torrey, Washington too. [Member Michael Southworth]: Graham Cloughton, our Chittenden thirteen, Burlington. Morris Billy, window too. [Vice Chair Scott Campbell]: Josh Campbell from St. Johnsbury. [Member Michael Southworth]: Jack Locker, your community assistant. [Member Dara Torre]: Great. In the room. Peter Sterling, Rev. [Member Christopher Morrow]: Greg Favor. I work with you, Steve. That looks like he's in line here for JP. [Chair Kathleen James]: Great. Alright. Does everybody have, draft number three point two from Ellen dated four twenty four at three thirty five PM? Yes. Great. Alright. So this draft, I looked it over, and unless I missed anything, I think it incorporates all the final language that we've talked about. So just to quickly hit the highlights and stop stop me oh, yeah. Representative Selfwork. [Member Christopher Morrow]: So there's two instances in here, I think, that we talked about that are not changed. And it re refers to on page four is first instance. Line five, measured from the edge of the traveled way. We had talked about state right of way, and that's not added in. And the second instance of that is on page five on line fourteen. I believe we had talked about changing that to right of way because of the issues with ditch maintenance, that sort of thing, and the potential of equipment being damaged by a snow plow with winging or resolving that. [Member Dara Torre]: Just just question. Was ledge council in the room when we talked about that? [Ellen Chikowski]: What was the nature of that? [Member Christopher Morrow]: Measure from the edge of the right of way because they have a right of way beyond the top portion of the road where your ditches are and where they can maintain. Yeah. But sometimes that's quite wide. You need to be center. [Member Michael Southworth]: Yeah. From. In a four rod road, forty eight. [Ellen Chikowski]: No. But It varies. [Member Christopher Morrow]: But then We talked about it. Some of [Member Michael Southworth]: the major highways are from [Member Christopher Morrow]: SIPs that I go into. [Ellen Chikowski]: So the group five is. [Member Christopher Morrow]: Yeah. I don't remember getting the agreement on that. [Member Dara Torre]: Well, I don't even know. [Chair Kathleen James]: I I I'm just thinking of my own state or municipal filing. [Member Christopher Morrow]: Well, just think of it as if it goes from the travel delay, that's as a payment. [Chair Kathleen James]: Do we know that, though? I don't know what that means in statute. [Member Christopher Morrow]: Oh, okay. It's edge of the travel delay. It's it's the road surface, the travel delay. Nobody's gonna drive in the ditch. They drive on the travel delay instead. But if we don't address that, then there is a possibility of it being obstructed within the right of way, which poses a lot of issues, number one, legally, but number two, damage to the world. [Chair Kathleen James]: This this is existing [Peter Sterling]: I know. [Chair Kathleen James]: Down [Member Christopher Morrow]: to why I I bought it up. [Member Richard Bailey]: Thanks a question. [Speaker 8 ]: Yeah. Can you just explain that [Member Dara Torre]: one more time, the difference between two? [Member Christopher Morrow]: Traveled way is where a vehicle would normally travel. It's on the road surface. And then right There's the right of way, which gives them the opportunity to maintain Okay. Ditch lines. [Ellen Chikowski]: The right of way can change depending on the road? They can. Yep. [Chair Kathleen James]: But but this takes it back beyond what the isn't it twenty five feet? [Ellen Chikowski]: Yeah. It generally yeah. Maybe twenty five feet. It varies. [Chair Kathleen James]: This takes it way beyond that anyway. So [Member Christopher Morrow]: No worries. Don't ten feet ten feet. Mhmm. [Chair Kathleen James]: I I'm saying you wanna change travel way to right of way, and I I think that I guess I don't remember discussing that in-depth or agreeing to it. That takes it farther back Yep. Than I had envisioned. [Member Michael Southworth]: It's like five feet from the center line. And [Chair Kathleen James]: Right. So what I stood [Member Michael Southworth]: feet from the pavement. [Chair Kathleen James]: Yeah. What my what rep southward is saying, I think, is that here's the here's the road. So the travel way is the edge of the road Yeah. Basically. Right of way is From the center twenty five feet [Member Dara Torre]: from the center [Member Christopher Morrow]: line. Center. Yeah. [Chair Kathleen James]: Yeah. So if you change it to right away, we pushed everything back. [Member Christopher Morrow]: But but that's only on roadways, not property one. [Member Dara Torre]: It's not that. It's closer. But my question was around here. So it's not that. It's closer to the road, not further. [Member Christopher Morrow]: No. It's further. [Chair Kathleen James]: No. It's further. Alright. Because it's hundred feet from wherever we're talking about. So it's a hundred feet from here Oh, I see. Versus a hundred feet from down here. Where measured from. [Member Christopher Morrow]: That we're back. Yeah. [Member Michael Southworth]: And, yeah, let's [Member Christopher Morrow]: I know what the chair is saying. She's looking at the hundred feet from a hundred and fifty k w one. Yeah. [Chair Kathleen James]: I'm looking at the hundred forty ten. So What [Member Richard Bailey]: page is that on? [Member Dara Torre]: Or a pitchfork. [Member Christopher Morrow]: Just if if we and that's lunch council is coming. [Chair Kathleen James]: Ellen said she'd be here at eleven thirty. But Okay. Anyway, so she should be on her way. Did you text her? [Member Christopher Morrow]: Because it isn't an issue with the other two because of the setbacks, but it's an issue with the tent floor. Well, let's get rid of that tent seat then. That's the problem. [Chair Kathleen James]: Yeah. Let's just get rid of the setbacks. [Member Christopher Morrow]: And if you want that bill to pass out here today, it's gonna be a long day. [Chair Kathleen James]: Oh, well, or, I guess, pass unanimous, I guess, would be the question. Brett Powell? [Ellen Chikowski]: Sorry. Yeah. A roadway could be as narrow a travelway could be as narrow as a sixteen or twenty foot roadway in in in a town road. And so we've got a powerway plus ten. Are you saying ten feet from the twenty five foot right away? Assuming that the road is constructed in the center of You lost me, Chris. The reference. So not all roads are built in the center of their needed needed [Member Dara Torre]: Right away. [Ellen Chikowski]: In feet well, right away. A developer puts in a plot, and and then he builds the road after the fact. He can not necessarily build the centerline of the road down the centerline of his deeded property or property or roads that are honed in feet. I'm talking about municipalities and state. I'm not talking about developers. No. When a developer develops a road or develops a plan, he doesn't they don't always build the road in the center of the parcel of its original plan. So it could vary side to side. [Member Christopher Morrow]: I guess is it understood what I'm trying to address with that? [Chair Kathleen James]: Representative Campbell? Sorry. This is Scott. [Vice Chair Scott Campbell]: Yeah. Thanks. I I see representative Southworth's point here, and I'm wondering if maybe one way to address would just be to increase the the the footage in in the first part of this section, the setback from a state or municipal highway to something something that's sort of well out of the way, maybe twenty feet five feet or something, something like that. Would that be a way of addressing the problem? [Chair Kathleen James]: So I don't see a problem, I guess. I where I'm kind of at is that this is this is existing. These are the existing rules that have been in place since this began. We haven't we didn't hear any testimony that this has caused any problems with state, municipal, or highway right of ways or travel ways. I don't think any solar install installer would put a solar panel or an array where they think it's gonna get hit by a cloud. And we've made it more restrictive than it is. [Member Christopher Morrow]: Wanted lunch council to weigh in because the definition that she may tell us a traveled way includes the right of way. [Member Dara Torre]: Yeah. We'll have to ask her. [Member Christopher Morrow]: But that's Okay. Her to tell us that and not me. [Member Dara Torre]: Let's put it in. [Chair Kathleen James]: Alright. Well, let's put, yeah, let's put a pin in it and keep going because I didn't I didn't realize this was her lingering question. So why don't we take a look at the rest of the bill? Let's start beginning. So let's see. We have section one, which is basically oh, and I know Ellen moved things around a little bit to make more sense legally with the statute. So there's our at the top of page two, you see our first kind of change, which is allowing the customer to change their mind about the rent just once after the system is commissioned, and we had changed that from ninety to one twenty to give folks a little bit of time and a couple of billing cycles to make sure everything is as they intended. Does that look good to everybody? K. Then at the bottom of page two, you see fifteen to twenty five. And, again, on page three and we had a question about why that whole thing was underlined, but I think that's just a standard change from fifteen to twenty five. But we can get stolen. Did she come see anyone? [Member Christopher Morrow]: I just looked that up. That's g is not in the original stack here. [Member Richard Bailey]: That's what I'm doing. [Member Christopher Morrow]: Well, we are we are speculating that just that it was improperly underlined, but that's not the case. Because that that's all g is not in the original stack. Yeah. [Chair Kathleen James]: My guess is that that's where she's underscoring or adding that. But when she comes in, you can just make sure. Let's do then we are asking PUC in section two to update their rules to basically match this new legal language and also to allow folks to go ahead and use the expedited registration process while they're engaged in the rulemaking process. On page four, we have a a new question about right of way, travel away. And I think Ellen is she's in environmental signature. Let me get her in here. Then we have our new statewide memo setback that we've added. And then you can see us repealing the language that had no setback. So, basically, we've we've added a tidput setback where none existed previously for everything twenty five and under. Just another fifteen to twenty five thing on page five. And then at the top of page six, you can see us basically eliminating that duplicative recording where the you know, you file with the town and then you tell the PUC that you filed with the town. And I think we heard testimony that that kind of predated the ability of to look these things up on the EPUC system. And then on at the bottom of page six, you see us asking PUC to submit an amended definition of plant to us and add a little bit of narrative. I can't remember whose idea that was, but it was a good one to talk about how they came to that you know, what the process was like, explain their recommendation a little bit so that we, don't just get, you know, a one paragraph new definition. So we'll be able to understand it a little bit in context. And then, importantly here, you can see us saying, as you're doing this work, please think about, land use. Please think about, how PUC can review these thoughtfully, to weigh all the factors and then take into take into account how this impacts rate payers. And then we have it taken effect July one. Does anybody have any other questions? [Member Richard Bailey]: Well, there changes on page one. Did you say something then? [Chair Kathleen James]: She struck out a damn. [Member Michael Southworth]: And this A lot [Chair Kathleen James]: of times when lead counsel goes through, they just clean up. [Ellen Chikowski]: Yeah. [Chair Kathleen James]: You know, little thingy, redundant words or something. [Ellen Chikowski]: Representative Southbrook. Can I make I hate the address? Representative Southbrook. Correct? That paragraph three has all lots of What page do you want? Page five. Page five line one. There's language in there that between the municipality and the homeowners or the the butters that that's their setbacks could be the setbacks could be modified or reduced. [Chair Kathleen James]: I think we're waiting for Ellen then. Yeah. That [Member Christopher Morrow]: that may cover it, and that may be a moot point. [Member Richard Bailey]: K. [Chair Kathleen James]: Mhmm. I go I went to [Speaker 8 ]: what was that one? [Chair Kathleen James]: Environment. A senate environment? House. House environment? Okay. Well, why don't we I mean, we could just adjourn and then wait for Alan to come. [Member Christopher Morrow]: Suggestion. We have [Chair Kathleen James]: Let me see. Oh. Alan. Alan. [Speaker 8 ]: If you can't say my name enough. [Chair Kathleen James]: I'll just wander down the hall. [Ellen Chikowski]: I just Did you hear did you hear us? [Chair Kathleen James]: We had a couple of questions from our members. Oh, [Speaker 8 ]: for the record, you are Ellen Chikowski, office of legislative pencil. [Ellen Chikowski]: What's up? [Chair Kathleen James]: Well, let's do the possibly the easiest one. So we saw you move some things around, which is good. On page three, rep Mario just have a technical question, I think. [Member Christopher Morrow]: I was just curious about g's, why that was put in a g. [Chair Kathleen James]: I see it. Yeah. [Member Christopher Morrow]: I mean, the whole we already have in statute, right, that below fifteen is the expedited registration. No. That's not in there? [Speaker 8 ]: No. That's why I put it in for you. [Chair Kathleen James]: That doesn't make sense. Because in the rest of the bill, you're just striking out fifteen and adding twenty five. Yeah. It's So here, it looks like you're putting out a new provision. [Speaker 8 ]: Is that rep morals? Yeah. I am. So when I first did the walk through, I, explained that the net metering rule statute has changed many times since it was first created. Originally, there was a directive for the PUC to create this process for of expedited registration. It is no longer in the statute. And so, you don't have to add this if you don't want to. That that requirement is not in this statute. The senate had interest in making sure it it was in the statute so that there was a public statement that that requirement was there. So you don't have to add this if you don't want to, but the senate had interest in putting it here to make that it was clear that part of the navigatoring rules had to require this. And, yes, it didn't say fifteen because it wasn't there previously. It was going to twenty five because that's what it's being set as. [Member Christopher Morrow]: That's much better. [Speaker 8 ]: So it's probably never done into existing, but if you wanna make sure that there is always a dispute or putting it in statute, it doesn't hurt. [Chair Kathleen James]: Okay. I'll talk to you after and make sure I understand that. So say it one more time. [Speaker 8 ]: At one time, there was a provision that said this. It no longer exists. Uh-huh. So it's putting it in here so that it is clear. Okay. The expedited registration. [Chair Kathleen James]: So as the net metering language evolved, the actual baseline sentence saying there shall be an expedited registration process disappeared, and it became something that lived only in rule. Yes. And so now we're putting it back in statute. Yes. [Member Michael Southworth]: And the idea of why it disappeared? Obviously, that map was it inadvertent to I don't know. Did someone see the a problem with it? [Speaker 8 ]: The statute the NetMater statute has changed many times, like, ten times in the last fifteen years. So I I can't [Member Richard Bailey]: Yeah. Got it. You know? Yeah. Decade. [Member Dara Torre]: Okay. Sorry. [Chair Kathleen James]: I'm writing down. So is the I'm just going to say that as the net metering statute evolved, the sentence that explicitly established this expedited registration process got lost in the shuffle. Basically, it was deleted. Sure. I do think [Speaker 8 ]: I put something about that in the section by section. [Chair Kathleen James]: It could be. I'm just looking at that. [Speaker 8 ]: But if you notice, there isn't anywhere else in here that says that the actuated process is required. Mhmm. And it's not in [Chair Kathleen James]: the underlying statute? That yeah. This It is now. This It wasn't. Right. [Speaker 8 ]: It wasn't. There was nothing for me to amend originally to to to make this directive. [Chair Kathleen James]: Okay. Got it. Alrighty. So representative self worth. [Ellen Chikowski]: So on page four [Member Christopher Morrow]: and a, when it says traveled with [Member Richard Bailey]: Mhmm. [Member Christopher Morrow]: Does that include municipality right of way, or is that covered anywhere in further down? I guess my question is would someone be allowed to erect a structure within a right of way for a municipality or a city? And it may not ever happen. It may happen, but does that cover right of way? [Chair Kathleen James]: So I do think I do [Speaker 8 ]: think, generally, the right of way is larger than the traveled way. [Member Christopher Morrow]: But they still have maintenance and any activities that happen in the right of ways, and my concern is it's it's built within that right of way, then there's a potential that that person's equipment may get damaged inadvertently during those maintenance practices. [Speaker 8 ]: I think they would potentially need a section eleven eleven permit if they were doing that. So under an entirely under the agency of transportation's agency of transportation's own programs, if you are doing anything in the right of way, I believe you need a section eleven eleven permit, which is about safety. So regardless of this, I would need to check, but I think the agency of transportation is very protective of exactly what you're describing. Absolutely. The adding anything [Member Christopher Morrow]: And would that cover municipalities as well? [Ellen Chikowski]: Yeah. It would. K. [Speaker 8 ]: Yeah. Yeah. Any highway right of way, there is a permit that they issue if you're going to be doing any just wanna make sure it's on the list. But, I mean, even for signage that's in the right of way, you need an essential on eleven. Right. So I suspect it covers this, but I I would need a little I would need a little more time to read through. But I suspect they would have concerns that would wanna make sure it would comply with their safety requirements. Yeah. [Member Dara Torre]: And just in case, just so we don't hold you up being able to report the bill next week, if we were to learn something after we vote in the house, the senate could make a correction to this if you Yeah. Because don't they have to approve our amended? So there's another it's not like we don't know the answer today. Give a one Our risk [Member Christopher Morrow]: Personally, I wouldn't wanna put anything through onto the floor that we're not sure of everything, especially when after the the chair has to re [Member Dara Torre]: Well, it's existing law, so it's not like, you know and I also don't know how pervasive the word set the definition of setback is in the whole like, would you have to make changes in the multiple cases? [Chair Kathleen James]: So, Ellen, what you're saying is that you think AOP has a a a whole separate permitting review oversight process for state and town highway right of ways that's gonna supersede anything we that's gonna be the controlling decision on whether anything would ever get built in a right [Speaker 8 ]: of way. I believe so. Yeah. Because this is nineteen VSA section eleven eleven. So a a permit must be obtained by anyone wishing to use the any part of the highway right of way for either the town or the state system. [Ellen Chikowski]: Okay. Okay. Yeah. [Speaker 8 ]: And it's it's it has some safety requirements. And haven't looked at this in a while, but it came up when we were doing signage. And so even when you have any kind of signage there, they wanna make sure that it's not yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Getting away with the plows or anything. And if [Member Christopher Morrow]: you feel it's covered under this, then I'm fine with it. I just I needed to bring that up to that phone. Yeah. [Member Michael Southworth]: And So just one second. Just to make sure I'm clear. So if ten feet from the traveled way, which is the setback we have in here, falls within the right of way, whatever it is, twenty five feet from the center line. Well, someone wants to build right at that ten foot mark per what we have here, but that's within the right of way. They have to get an AOT okay, and the AOT will say, that's not gonna mess us up or that will mess us up. You can't do it, in which case they have to move back to [Speaker 8 ]: I believe so. Yes. [Member Michael Southworth]: Whatever AOT tells them to. [Chair Kathleen James]: I don't remember why we [Member Dara Torre]: picked ten feet. We we haven't talked to anyone in transportation, so I don't know whether that's [Member Christopher Morrow]: The the La Liga students in town. [Member Dara Torre]: They gave us Yeah. [Ellen Chikowski]: That was [Chair Kathleen James]: VLCT suggested it as something that would be, again, worse than what we have now, which is no setback. And VLCT suggested ten, which would be a nice minimum minimum statewide standard that wouldn't impede the ability of folks to put solar on their property, which is important, but not get into And [Member Dara Torre]: there was a de facto setback because of this permit, eleven eleven. [Chair Kathleen James]: We didn't take any testimony from AOT. Yeah. So Yeah. [Member Dara Torre]: It was operating like I said [Member Michael Southworth]: in in On the roadway. So not your neighbor's property. Right? Right. The Sand Peak was [Member Dara Torre]: the point. [Speaker 8 ]: Avoid That report [Member Michael Southworth]: at each other. [Ellen Chikowski]: Mhmm. Got it. [Member Christopher Morrow]: Yeah. And if ledge council is, you know, feeling like this is covered under that, then, you know, it's no issue. I just needed to bring that back up. [Chair Kathleen James]: Ellen, what's the what's the permit called? [Speaker 8 ]: Eleven eleven. It's a sec it's nineteen VSA section eleven elevens. [Chair Kathleen James]: Ten thousand hundred and elevens. Nineteen VSA section eleven elevens? Yep. Peter, do you have experience with installers and right away, or do you have any? I I I mean, I don't [Peter Sterling]: know if Peter Sterling, [Chair Kathleen James]: we know why you solar installers if they if [Ellen Chikowski]: they get into right away. I'm only laughing because believe it or [Peter Sterling]: not, my wife's a right away agent. I'd be great. [Ellen Chikowski]: And you would say disclosure. [Peter Sterling]: I would know all this. Right? But I don't. But I can say this. The driving factor for solar installers is that it is incredibly expensive to go back if an array is damaged. So before they say anything, they look at town maps and establish where the right of way is, and they will be away from that because if they have to move it because it's all of a sudden in your right of way, and VTrans wants to move the road or put a culvert in there, that is five figures potentially. They are paying out of pocket for it. And so I would bet dollars to doughnuts, when they see a right of way, they are gonna be as lost in that right of way as possible. And they because they are on the hook for fixing something if a plow makes it or throws up rocks. And replacing panels is a really expensive proposition. So I don't see how any we don't have this problem now because no one goes near a right of way. [Member Richard Bailey]: So is there an issue that's just not just changing it to the right of way versus the traveled way? I I yeah. I have a And that would create [Member Christopher Morrow]: a lot more statute change in a [Ellen Chikowski]: lot of different places. Yeah. That's risky. That set it back another ten feet too. Right? Because if you're assuming a twenty five foot right away and the travel wave, anything from, you know, thirteen standard lane, a little bit of shoulder. In a in a municipality, they don't build out the [Chair Kathleen James]: Yeah. They don't look at the [Ellen Chikowski]: Yeah. Eight foot shoulder on a thirteen foot lane. [Member Richard Bailey]: But why would the solar people won't even bother to be putting it [Ellen Chikowski]: They wouldn't wanna be near there because of the rock. Oh, wow. So if you build it if if you build over that right away and a stone hits it, it's fixing you. If you build right in that right away and a plow and you prove this the the the plow through the stone and not the kid and broke the the panel, then you might have some recourse. But if you're in the right of way, that's damaged. And nobody's gonna build it up in a drainage right away or an additional easement that that comes to town or state has gotten for drainage engagement that's We would hope they would. Well, no. We well, you're right. We'd hope they did, but the sun doesn't shine so well there. [Chair Kathleen James]: Right. Yeah. And it's difficult to honestly, it's difficult to legislate. And I'm not sure it's a good idea to legislate for the worst case, hypothetical one off we can dream up. You know? So [Member Christopher Morrow]: If the committee is happy with the the wagering, then that's fine. I just I needed to bring it back up. [Chair Kathleen James]: Yep. And I'm just looking I I I found that section that Ellen Ellen cited for us. Yeah. Permits must be obtained by anyone. [Member Michael Southworth]: If attorney check, how's the rep south work are comfortable, I am comfortable. [Chair Kathleen James]: Mhmm. A permit shall be required for any use of any highway right of way. Yeah. Okay. So I think I I'm I'm comfortable. [Member Richard Bailey]: A question again? Yeah. So what you're saying is they would probably measure twenty five feet from the center line if it was near highway or if that's both and then go to ten feet beyond that? [Speaker 8 ]: To be now the right away. Or or or [Member Michael Southworth]: the work they need to. Yeah. [Member Richard Bailey]: Mhmm. Yes. They don't wanna [Member Christopher Morrow]: be anywhere near. Just If [Member Michael Southworth]: I could just add to the point, even within the VTrans fault, it's still a pain in the neck if your array gets damaged for the property owner and for the installer. Right. [Member Christopher Morrow]: And that and that's basically what I'm trying to avoid is that with added cost is if the owner's putting that in. So [Chair Kathleen James]: We're very good? Now now there's one more question I [Speaker 8 ]: can answer to get some stuff on the floor. [Chair Kathleen James]: Right away. [Member Christopher Morrow]: Thank you. [Chair Kathleen James]: Sure. [Member Dara Torre]: Yeah. I know [Member Michael Southworth]: that we're going through two parallel processes here. We're getting comfortable with the bill, and you're planning your floor [Chair Kathleen James]: I'm planning my floor report. Nineteen BSA section eleven eleven. Who knew? Alright. If folks are done discussing the bill [Member Christopher Morrow]: Okay. [Ellen Chikowski]: Okay. Okay. Thanks. Hi. [Member Dara Torre]: Move Sorry. Just I'm just gonna make you comment that the first motion [Member Michael Southworth]: Is approved. [Member Dara Torre]: Is approved and that that was a straw poll. Okay. And that the second motion is not a record. Okay. [Ellen Chikowski]: So I move that we approve draft three point two as amended. [Member Dara Torre]: Just say that. [Speaker 8 ]: Excuse me. [Member Christopher Morrow]: Does it take any second? [Member Dara Torre]: It does not. [Chair Kathleen James]: K? [Ellen Chikowski]: I move we report draft three point two of s fifty as amended to paper plate. [Chair Kathleen James]: The clerk shall commence to call the roll. Sorry. I almost blew my blew [Member Dara Torre]: my bettys. Okay. Representative Richard Bailey? [Member Richard Bailey]: Yes. [Member Dara Torre]: Representative Scott Campbell? [Member Christopher Morrow]: Yes. [Member Dara Torre]: Representative Christopher Howland? [Member Michael Southworth]: Yes. [Member Dara Torre]: Representative Brent Butner? Yes. Representative Christopher Morrow? Hi. Representative Laura Spilios? Representative Michael Southworth? Yes. Representative Derek Torre? Yes. And representative Kathleen James? Yes. Wonderful. It's nine zero zero. [Chair Kathleen James]: Awesome. So thanks, everybody. That was good work. Dara, we'll get the bill officially submitted, and Dara will tell me how we do that. And then does everybody know we have a token session on Monday? Why? [Ellen Chikowski]: But does but does that do the best statutory requirement on this reporting? [Chair Kathleen James]: So it it means it'll be on the floor on Tuesday instead of Wednesday. So on Monday, the speaker and somebody else or nobody else will basically come and gavel in and say, oh, we don't have a quorum and gavel out, but it will be a legislative day for all intents and purposes. So this will this will move off the notice calendar. [Ellen Chikowski]: So this would be on the notice now here for Monday. [Chair Kathleen James]: Monday. And then Tuesday, when we come in, it'll be separate reading. Mhmm. It'll be on the action calendar. So I lost today on my floor report, crap. [Ellen Chikowski]: Do you want to do we wanna make a motion to extend it another? [Chair Kathleen James]: I don't think we need to. I I think I can get my floor report done and just you know? I mean, if I get hit by a car and, you know, I'm in the hospital, then we could delay one legislative day. But I think I think I think that we can bring this to the floor on Tuesday. And I'm gonna be working on my floor report over the weekend, probably. I don't normally do this. I don't know if chairs do this, but I was thinking it'd be nice [Member Dara Torre]: if you guys saw it ahead of [Chair Kathleen James]: time, but no promises. But if I'm in a perfect world, I will send you guys the full report ahead of time just so you can see what I'm planning to say. But then we probably won't have time for nine people to group that at my full report. It's just it's up on it. But if you see anything really, you know, incorrect or something, of course, you could get back to me. [Member Dara Torre]: That's that's a pie in [Chair Kathleen James]: the sky thought, but I'll try to get it to you guys ahead of time. Mhmm. Alright. Okay. So we're back at one. Does everybody know we were able to move our testimony earlier? [Member Christopher Morrow]: What? Oh. [Chair Kathleen James]: Okay. Yep. We're back at one to hear from BHCB, and then we're done for the week. Alright. Thanks, everybody. [Ellen Chikowski]: Lunch. Lunch. Lunch. [Member Michael Southworth]: I'll fly.

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